This interview is drawn out from
the book written by BLESSING USMAN.
On the topic that said, UNVEILING BOKO HARAM, here’s
the latest news and gist.
Please read carefully, Boko haram
days are numbered.
Former Military President, Ibrahim Babangida
Boko Haram group
Question: Who are you and where are you from?
Answer: My name is Sheik Sani Haliru. I am from Niger Republic, but my mother
is from Bornu State of Nigeria and I grew up inWulari, Maiduguri, (Northern
Nigeria) where I was trained.
Q: Trained as what and under whose tutelage?
A: I was trained as an Almajiri, after four years, at the age of 14, I was sent
to Kano City, Kano State where I was trained in the Sheik Abubakar Gummi School
of Arabic studies.
Q: So you know Sheik Abubakar Gummi?
A: Yes, and I also know his children and obeyed all the teachings he laid down
before hedied.
Q: So who tutored you and who is your mentor?
A: Sheik Abubakar Gummi tutoredme. My mentor was Osama bin Laden, and until my
conversion from Islam to the Christian faith,my dreams and aspirations in
lifewas to do more than Osama bin Laden did before he died on Sunday, May 1,
2011.
Q: You said that your mentor was Osama bin Laden. Is he still your mentor?
A: I am now a changed person. The Sheik Sani Haliru is now a new creature, old
things have passed away because I now have Jesus Christ that I hated and
persecuted for44 years.
Q: Tell me about your past and how many countries of the World you have been
to?
A: I cannot tell all about my past because it will take several days to tell my
story and about my conversion experience to Christianity. I have been to eight
countries.
Q: Can you please name them?
A: I have been to Sudan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, Egypt
and of course to my own country Niger Republic.
Q: Where did you receive your training and as what?
A: I received my training in Libya and Pakistan as an Attack Strategist. I was
trained alongside with some highly placed Nigerians and other foreign Nationals
who were marked (he showed me the proof of his mark with a sign) in the form of
a sword in the hand to fight and kill for Allah.
Q: Can you give me some of the names of your colleagues with whom you received
training in Libya and Pakistan?
A: They are scattered all over the country and we were not too many then.
Q: Just mention but a few names.
A: Ali Baba Nur, Asari Dokubo, Jasper Akinbo, Mohammed Yusuf, Salisu Maigari,
Danlami Abubakar,Cletus Okar, Ali Qaqa, Maigari Haliru and Asabe Dantala to
mention but a few.
Q: Which of the Asari’s do you mean?
A: The Niger Delta war king. He was a year ahead of me in Benghazi training
camp in Libya.
Q: Who financed your training in Libya and Pakistan?
A: You will not believe me and only God will judge the Chief sponsor of
terrorism in Nigeria whose name I will not mention because he is so powerful
and even the president of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan, is so much afraid of the
man.
Q: If you really know the Christ in you, why are you afraid to tell me the name
of the man who sponsored you and the date or approximate period he sponsored
you.
A: I am not afraid because he knows me and he cannot deny it if he sees me face
to face.
Q: Then tell me, who is this powerful man?
A: The man is no other person than the man they call IBB now as I am talking to
you, General Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida has more than 600 men and women
Jihadists who are under his pay role. They are scattered all over the Country
and he (IBB) can use them to destroy Nigeria.
Q: Did you say six hundred?
A: Yes 600 + IBB’s agents of destruction are in the Nigeria Army (NA), Nigeria
Police Force (NPF), Navy, Air Force, Oil and Gas sectors, even in the finance
home such as in top level positions of CBN (Central Bank of Nigeria) and other
banks. You find them in politics, in the Senate, National Assembly, in themedia
both print and electronic and even in Aso Rock, Abuja (Nigeria’s capital).
Q: How do you mean by this statement “and even in the finance…”?
A: Yes, I mean every word I say; even the Islamic bank champion was planted by
IBB to help in Islamizing Nigeria.
Q: So how can you describe IBB?
A: IBB is a “green snake” in green grass. He is the main problem of Nigeria
along with members of the Cabal.
Q: Have you forwarded any of these evidence(s) to Aso Rock orto SSS (State
Security Services)?
A: I attempted to do so a few weeks ago and I was arrested and detained for two
days because IBB’S men are so many in SSS (State Security Services) as well.
After I was released by the grace of God, they (the Police) warned me never to
blowup the polity or provoke violence and I should keep my so-called-born-again
with me or elseI will go to jail.
Q: So you were a key member and a registered jihadist hardliner.
A: Yes, I was.
Q: Under what group?
A: I was a Boko Haramist. But Boko Haram is just a cover nameto give it a name.
I have my identity as a founding member ofthe dreaded jama’aful Ahlul sunna wal
Liddawati wal Jihad, aka Boko Haram.
Q: Apart from IBB, who are the other top sponsors of terrorism in this country?
A: They are many, but IBB is the major financier. He introduced the suicide
bombing that startedwhen he killed Dele Giwa. I have the names of six
traditional rulers and seven present & ex-Governors as wellas several top
military and security officerswho are co-sponsoring the socalled Boko Haram.
That apart,I have documented evidences to provethat General Mohammadu Buhari,
Alhaji Abubaka Atiku and other top politicians and traditional rulers are some
of the people behind Boko Haram. Very soon, nemesis will catch up with them.
Q: What if I use my influence to guarantee you safety, can you brief the press
to expose IBB (General Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida) with all these documents
that I am seeing withyou right now.
A: Only God can guarantee my safety.He did so on that fateful day when the SSS
and police wanted to secretlykill me because of what I unveiled. I would have
been a dead man by now if not for a man of God whocame as an “Angel” to quietly
free me. Right now, I am wanted dead or alive by IBB and his agents of
destruction in high places. The SSS are busy huntingfor me up & down and
arrestingand torturing innocent people because of me.
Q: What if I connect you to a man of God by the name of Brother Mike Ejiofor,
who is a lawyer, a professional negotiatorand a mediator who was the Director
of SSS until October 2010?
A: I only wish to be connected toGod.
Q: So how can you describe this country?
A: Nigeria is sifting under an Islamic barbaric bomb (IBB). Only God can rescue
this nation because 75% of Christians are prayer less. Why? Because they are in
their own comfort zone. They do not know what the Christians in Northern
Nigeria are passing through and theyignorantly are thinking thatthe Allahof the
Muslims is the same as the Godof Christians in the Holy Bible who says: “Thou
shalt not kill”.
Q: What does the Qur’an say about Islam being referred to asa religion of peace
by numerous Muslim scholars?
A: Let me tell you in a very clearlanguage that Islam is not a religion of
peace, but it is of violence, of killers and fighters as already stated in
their so called “Holy” Qur’an which I ignorantly followed all these years when
I was spiritually blinded as a Muslim.
Q: Can you prove these statements from the Qur’an?
A: [Sani Haliru, who is now knownas Solomon Haliru (Paul Haliru’s brother)]
brought out two copies of the original Qur’an in the Arabic & English
translation. He gave me one, and told me to open the book to Surah Al- baqarah
chapter 2 vs 216. Itsays, “Holy fighting is ordained (prescribed) for all
muslims, whether they like it or not, as far as it is good and approved by
Allah through his prophet Mohammed.”
Q: Where is it in the Qur’an that killing is also permitted by Allah?
A: Look at Surah Al-baqarah chapter 2 vs 191 “And kill them wherever youfind
them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. An Al-Fitnah is
worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-Al-Haram (the
sanctuary at Makkah), unless they (first) fight you there. Butifthey attack
you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.” Muslims are
told tokill and fight in the cause of Allah.
Q: Does it mean that IBB and all these Muslim traditional rulers and Governors
that are sponsoring Boko Haram to kill Christians and burn our churchesin the
North are not aware of the passage in the Qur’an that saysthere must not be
compulsion in Islam as Mohammadu Buhari asserted in awidely publicized
interview on Saturday, the 21st of April, 2011?
A: I have worked so closely with Mohammadu Buahri for five years, and I can
prove it that General Buhariis the most notable outspoken jihadist hardliner in
Nigeria who is also strategically sponsoring Boko Haram.
Q: General Buhari told a group ofpressmen in April 2011 that there is no
compulsion in Islam and it is a religion of peace. He quoted Surah Al-Baqarah
Chapter 2:225. What can you sayto that?
A: What I can say to that is General Buhari, like all other true Muslims, is a
hypocrite who is shying away from the fact.
Q: How do you mean by saying that most Muslim millionaires andhighly placed
Muslims are “pretenders and shying away from the fact”?
A: What I mean is that they (Muslims-both rich and poor) aretold to use their
position of wealth (or otherwise) to promote Islam or else they will face
destruction from Allah.
Q: Where can you find this in theQu’ran?
A: Open Surah Al-Baqarah Chapter 2:195, it is written herethat you must use
your wealth to champion Jihad of all kinds or else destruction is waiting for
such a person on the last day.
“And spend in the Cause of Allah (i.e. Jihad of all kinds) and do notthrow
yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the Cause ofAllah),
and do good. Truly, Allahloves Al-Muhsinun (the good-doers).”
Q: Have you ever been detained or arrested?
A: Nobody could arrest me until the year 2009 soon after my immediate boss
Mohammed Yusufwas killed. About 23 of us were arrested in one of our hideouts
in Bauchi. But when Governor IsaYagiuda heard about it, he immediately arranged
for me to be free. Even before his official broadcast in 2010 that he was using
his position as the executive Governor of Bauchi State (Northern Nigeria) to
free 28 prisoners from Bauchi CentralPrison, I was already afree man along with
several of my colleagues.
Q: Now can you tell me some of the horrible crimes that you committed and how
you got born again and became converted.
A: Old things have passed away and Idon’t want to talk about the past, because
like Apostle Paul said, we need to press forward in Christ Jesus, the author
and finisher of our faith.
Q: Just mention a few to assist some of us who are making efforts to unravel
the mystery of the menace called Boko Haramwhich you have renounced.
A: I took part in the Kaduna riot of 1992 and in several northern states of
Nigeria, but the state Ioperated more from was Bornu (northern Nigeria) where I
was the State Commander/Chief Strategist.
Q: So as Chief Attack Strategist, what crimes have or did you commit before you
renounced the deadly sect?
A: In the early months of May 1986, I was among the 36 Jihadist hardliners, who
went on a rampage to attack Christian students of the University of Sokoto
(Sokoto State in northern Nigeria). In that same week, the Federal Government
of Nigeria under the brutal leadership of IBB mobilized us andprovided some
military vans and Army uniforms which our men used and started killing
innocentand defenseless Christians all over the Northern states. I and the son
of the Emir of Kano, whois now a Christian by name Rev. Paul Ado Bayero, were
among the Muslim fanatics who razed down the sculpture of Jesus at the
University of Ibadan (Oyo State inwestern Nigeria).
The following year, March 5, 1987 to be very precise, the “Evil Genius” General
Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida secretly armed us throughone of his close aids by
the name of Captain Hassan Abubakar (now aPastor with a fast growing church in
Lagos). We went to go and kill some targeted Christiansincluding Rev. Nuhu Kure
(Throneroom founder) after the destruction we committed at theCollege of
Education in Kafanchan, Kaduna State (North Central Nigeria). And of recent, I
was the leader of the team of soldiers of Allah that destroyed Church
buildingsand properties inBornu State (northern Nigeria).
Q: Can you name some of the buildings and Churches you and your Boko Haramists
destroyed?
A: There are many, but our maintargets which we succeeded in destroying
included: Goodnews &ECWA Church, Damboa Road, Maiduguri E.Y.N.L.C.C.
Wulari, NationalEvangelical Mission Inc. Divisional Headquarters Wulari, Elijah
ApostolicChrist Church, OkeAyo Celestial Church of Christ, Deeper Life Bible
Church, the Lord’s Chosen and six others in Railway Area and all over Wulari in
Maiduguri, Borno State. Other church buildings we destroyed and looted include
the Aposotic Church, COCIN Church, EvangelicalChurch/Mission Headquarters,
Anglican Church, Baptist Church/Mission, Redeemed Christian Church of God,
El-Shaddai Parish, Watchman Charismatic and several others.
Q: Where were the security officers when you were destroying all these church
buildings and killing Christians?
A: Since 1985 when General Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida (IBB)started using us to
persecute Christians, the Nigerian Army hasbeen an extensionor shall I say an
arm of the Muslims agenda toIslamize Nigeria. Wherever they go to attack
Christians, the Muslims in the top military positions give the cover by
providing the logistics. Since the day of Babangida (1985) Christians
sufferviolence. This is the time that we must attack them and take what belongs
to us by force.
Q: You don’t seem to like IBB andyoutalk so much of his evil deeds. Are you the
only one he used or is there more revelationwe can investigate or ascertain
further?
A: Babangida is the most wicked and heartless man I have ever seen or worked
with. He used many Muslim fanatics (Most of who are now Christians) to commit a
lot of atrocities. For example, he used Alhaji Sannusi Dasuki (now Solomon
Dasuki), Alhaji Ahmed Ado Bayero (now Rev. Paul Ado Bayero), Alhaji Mohammed
Usman (now Evangelist Blessed Usman), Alhaji Sani Jegga (now Isaac Jegga) to
attack the following men of God: Late Papa Idahosa, Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke,
Rev. Uma Ukpai, Rev. O. Ezekiel and other men of God. He used some of thepeople
whose names mentioned above to burn down several million copies of the Holy
Bible. Along with the late MKO Abiola, they both sponsored the sinkingof three
million copies of the Holy Bible into the high sea.
Q: With all these revelations, can’t IBB be arrested and charged to court?
A: Who will arrest him? Is it Goodluckor who? Even when we provided the proofs
to them that IBB killed Dele Giwa and thathe sponsored the burning and looting
of the Jos main market (Terminus) and also planted the seed of the present
crises in Plateau State in 1991, they refused to arrest him because he is very
cunning in his evil ways. He leaves notrace of his evil deeds, but nemesis will
soon catch up with him because the sardonic spirit in him will soon expire.
Q: In a simple language, how can youdescribe IBB?
A: Ibrahim Babangida is a wicked and heartless man. As a military officer he
was very brutal and as a politician he is very selfish and tricky.He better
repent and confess his numerous sins and wickedness before it will be too late.
Q: Can you prove to the readersthat fighting and killing in the name of Allah
is justified in the Holy Qur’an?
A: I can site more than 28 passages from the Holy Qur’an where fighting and
killing is justified as approved in the cause and for the sake of Allah. Please
turn to the Qur’an (it goes from the back to the front) and see the book Surah
At-Taubah Chapter 9:29 “Fight against those who believe not inAllah, nor in the
Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger
(Muhammad), and those who acknowledge not the religion oftruth (i.e Islam)
among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the
Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” In this passage,
every true Muslim(s) is specifically instructed to fight against four (4)
groups of people especially the Jews and Christians.
Q: So what is the meaning of Jizyah and how was the name coined?
A: From the footnote as you cansee in the Qur’an, Jizyah is a taxlevied against
the people of the scriptures (i.e. the Christians) who are under the Islamic
government. Jizyah was coined out after the Jaiz bank that theMuslims are
wanting to use to take over the financial world viaIslamic Banking.
Q: Are you saying indirectly that Islam is not a religion of peace asmost
Muslims will want us to believe?
A: I am saying it directly not indirectly that Islam is a religion of violence
It is a religion of force. More than 95% of Nigerianjournalists and people of
the world are ignorant of what the Qur’an teaches and/or says about Islam and
violence.
Q: How do you mean?
A: Open the Qur’an to Surah Muhammad Chapter 47:4. In this verypassage, Muslims
are commanded byAllah to kill and smite the neck of anyone who does not accept
the teaching of Islam, and according to the satanic verses they (Muslims) would
be helping Allah by so doing.
I quote exactly as it is written inthe Muslims Holy Qur’an: “So, when you meet
(in fight-Jihad in Allah’s Cause) those who disbelieve, smite (their) necks
tillwhen you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on
them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for
generosity (i.e. free from them without ransom), or ransom (according to what
benefits Islam), until the war laysdown its burden. Thus [you are ordered by
Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad againstthe disbelievers till they
embrace Islam and are saved from the punishment in the Hell-fire or at least
come under your protection], but if it had been Allah’s Will, He Himself could
certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight) in order to
test some of you with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He
will never let their deeds be lost.”
Q: So is that why all Muslims are indirectly supporting Boko Haram?
A: Yes, Boko Haram is just a name coined by satan to Islamizethe world. That is
why every true Muslim is directly and indirectly supporting Boko Haram.
Q: Can you explain further?
A: In Surah Al-Baqarah 2:195, thewealthy Muslims and all those in high position
of authority such as IBB,Buhari, Atiku, Isa Yaguda, etc. are told to use their
wealthand any position they find themselves in to promote Islam and the cause
of jihadof all kindsor else they will face destructionfrom Allah.
Q: Is that how the suicide bombers come into the picture?
A: Yes,
Q: My readers will like to know from the Qur’an if Islam is the zenith of
wickedness as you earlier said.
A: In the Qur’an Allah commandedthus “(Remember) when your Lord revealed to the
angels, Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will
cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over
the necks, and smite over all their fingersand toes.” (See the Qur’an of Surah
Al-Anfal 8:12)
Q: So you did accordingly?
A: Yes! Satan used Buhari and Tunde Bakare, the false prophet, to smite the
necks andchop off the fingers and toes of several Christians in Zaira,
Maiduguri, Bauchi and several other places.
Q: Which passages say that the Christians are enemies of the Muslims? Some
ignorant Christianleaders and pressmen are of theopinion that both Christians
and Muslims worship the same God.
A: Christians and journalists (about 95%) are very ignorant. Let them search
the original Qur’an (The NobleQur’an). The more the Muslim leaderstry to block
the original Qur’an from circulation, the more the lie spreads that we’re
serving the same God. That is why the Lord says “I will buildmy church; and the
gates of (hades) hell shall not prevail against it.” Matthew 16:18
Q: Mention another satanic versethat makes every true Muslim(s)to hate Christians.
A: In addition to the several passages and mentioned earlier, please take a
look at Surah An-Nisa 4:101 and I quote “For the Unbelievers are unto you open
enemies.”
Q: What is the solution to this problem of the Boko Haram menace?
A: The problem is not Boko Haram. The problem is the Spirit of Islam which must
be crushed by the prayer of the Saints. Wasit not through prayer that people
like Rev. Paul AdoBayero, Bishop K. K. Degaya, Apostle Johnson Suleman and
hundreds of others got saved? Was it not through prayer that I got savedon my
way to assassinate both Rev. Samuel Dasuki and Evangelist Blessed Usman when
they were in their training campin a crusade/ministration to theirconverts? I
tell you from my experience this past few monthsas aChristian, many Christians
are not united. In the north Christians are more united and sincere, but in the
south & west, Christians are in comfort zones and if they don’t wakeup,
they will be surprised of what Muslims will do to them.
Q: What can Muslims do in Warri, PortHarcourt and other southern and western
zones?
A: Look let me tell you one top secret.Before I repented, an average of 2,500
Muslim fanaticscame to Delta State every month, 2,000 to the Eastern states and
2,000 to Cross River State and 2,500 to other zones. All of these Muslim
fanatics weresent in preparation of the holy war (Jihad).
Q: Where are they camped?
A: In various Mosques and Islamic training schools which they use as training
camps at odd hours (—for security reasons, the author/interviewer have
decidednotto publish the other details of this answer in print).
Q: What advice do you have for Christians in the comfort zones?
A: Pray for our Christian brethren in the north. Secondly, stop giving your
ladies to Muslims. Thirdly, do no sell your land to a Muslim any longer.
Fourth, do not employ them as security men. Fifth, beware of what they do with
your finger nails and hair. Finally, watch them carefully and be very prayerful
because Nigeria is sitting on an Islamic barbaric bomb (IBB) and the Muslims
are prepared to fight you in your backyard.
Q: Any advice for the president?
A: They are desperate to get him/his family by kidnap/killing them, not only by
Spiritual means, but through some well trained security men who he think can
never disappoint him. About six suicide bombers are in the presidency and one
of them is a student from NDA-Nigerian Defence Academy (other details Iam
keepingfor security reasons).
Q: Do you know anything about bombing?
A: In answer to this question, I shall give you a top secret document which is
supposed to be for only committed Muslims which I smuggled out and gave to some
Christian leaders in the south.
Q: But tell me a little of how they got the knowledge to manufacture a bomb?
Who sponsored your people to do these wicked acts?
A: We were sponsored by the man they call IBB and some top Muslims within and
outside the country. We also worked hand inhand with Al Qaeda. As far back as
12th of June, 2011 when I got converted to Christianity, I gave several
documents to Police and SSS. They arrested and detained me. But the Holy Spirit
released me the same daythat they wanted to kill me secretly by poisoning.
Q: What secrets did you give them?
A: I told them that the Muslims are using trailer and vehicles in military
colour and are escorted by northern soldiers to smuggle weapons to various
mosques andIslamic trainingschools in Aba, Onitsha, Port Harcourt, Owerri,
Calabar, Sapele, Warri, Ebonyi and Enugu States, etc.
Q: What about the bomb manufacturers?
A: I told them that the Traditional Rulers in the northern part of Nigeria and
many state governors in the farnorth are sponsoring Boko Haram. I told them
that I was paid a deposit of 5 million Naira to go and bomb NDA in the month of
August 2011 when they will be planning the graduation that just took place
where I would have driven straight to the Commander’s Office with a covering
letter from a Garrison Officer commander whose name I gave to the police and
who is a close relative to IBB.
Q: Did you give the name of the bomb location where the trainingis going on?
A: Yes, I gave them and told them where they were training 65 new Islamic
Youths in two bomb factories in Bauchi, Bornu and Niger states andalso the bomb
factory at Hanyan Nassarawa Iku, Niger State.
Q: Any more revelation?
A: Yes, I gave them many bomb factories even in the southern and eastern states
and seven inKaduna State, Plateau State andAbuja. It was in the Niger State
bomb factory that we manufactured the improvised explosive devices that was
used to operate in Abuja on October 1, 2010.
Q: Did the police take immediate action?
A: The news leaked to IBB immediately and he immediately instructed his ground
soldiers torelocate the bombs. The Police and SSS were afraid to search some of
the mosques because the presidency must be aware that by so doing, the country
Will explode into a religious war between Christians and Muslims.That is why I
said Nigeria is sitting on Islamic time bomb or shall I say Islamic Barbaric
Bomb.
